Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Hum
Quand il est venu pour tuer Belle dans le donjon de Gina il avait encore rien à voir avec Cora...
Hook est un pirate, Hook n'est pas un villain car il n'a pas le charisme d'un grand villain et ne sait pas faire par lui même, il se fait toujours aider: Tink, Gina, Cora...
Donc c'est un peu batard car c'est un méchant mais en même temps il a pas les cou*lles d'être un grand villain... C'est mon avis !
Évidemment au jour d'aujourd'hui tout a changé, il a changé... M'enfin c'est pas parce que Killian a un bon fond qu'il ne fait pas parti des méchants, c'est surtout car il n'était pas le grand méchant charismatique de la saison 2...
Quand il est venu pour tuer Belle dans le donjon de Gina il avait encore rien à voir avec Cora...
Hook est un pirate, Hook n'est pas un villain car il n'a pas le charisme d'un grand villain et ne sait pas faire par lui même, il se fait toujours aider: Tink, Gina, Cora...
Donc c'est un peu batard car c'est un méchant mais en même temps il a pas les cou*lles d'être un grand villain... C'est mon avis !
Évidemment au jour d'aujourd'hui tout a changé, il a changé... M'enfin c'est pas parce que Killian a un bon fond qu'il ne fait pas parti des méchants, c'est surtout car il n'était pas le grand méchant charismatique de la saison 2...
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Oui, dans le donjon il n'avait pas de relation avec Cora, certes, mais il le faisait dans le but de sa vengeance. Et mis à part le garde de sa cellule, il n'a tué aucun innocent (du moins de ce qu'on sait pour l'instant) contrairment aux autres.
Je ne dirais pas qu'il n'a pas les cou*lles d'être un grand méchant; ce n'est tout simplement pas en lui.
Je ne dirais pas qu'il n'a pas les cou*lles d'être un grand méchant; ce n'est tout simplement pas en lui.
Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
je suis d'accord avec vous Hook n'est pas un grand méchant c'est juste sa vengeance qui la mené à s'associer avec des méchant. Par contre Zelena on la voit tuer personne elle transforme juste les gens en singes vollant
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Ahahah, je ne sais pas si se faire transformer en signe volant est une chose agréable !!! Bref, c'est vrai qu'on ne la voit tuer personne, elle a menacé de tuer, elle aurait tué Henry si Emma ne l'avait pas arrêté. Mais pour moi, Zelena n'est pas si méchante que cela, elle est surtout malheureuse parce qu'elle s'est toujours senti mal-aimée, surtout par son CON de père adoptif....regina-3845 a écrit:Par contre Zelena on la voit tuer personne elle transforme juste les gens en singes vollant
Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Pour moi Zelena c'est une super grande méchante! Elle a retenu Rumple dans une cage, elle a volé le bébé de Snow, elle a fait tuer Neal ( enfin quoique sur ce point je ne sais pas trop comment me positionner..), elle a quand même fait beaucoup de mal autour d'elle.. tout ça par jalousie en fait
Hook a tenté de tuer Belle parce que Rumple a tué Milah juste devant ses yeux..
Bon d'accord il a essayé 2 fois, mais je ne sais pas pourquoi, à mes yeux, ce n'est quand même pas un méchant.
Je le vois plus comme un homme à qui on a pris l'amour de sa vie et qui a voulu se venger en faisant la même chose.
Hook a tenté de tuer Belle parce que Rumple a tué Milah juste devant ses yeux..
Bon d'accord il a essayé 2 fois, mais je ne sais pas pourquoi, à mes yeux, ce n'est quand même pas un méchant.
Je le vois plus comme un homme à qui on a pris l'amour de sa vie et qui a voulu se venger en faisant la même chose.
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Je suis d'accord avec toi @samtigrou concernant Zelena ; pour moi elle prend plaisir à faire ce qu'elle fait.
Elle a su tirer sur la corde sensible par rapport à Belle et Neal qui voulaient ramener Rumple ; sa jalousie l'a pour moi vraiment transformer en villaine. Elle aurait pu avoir une seconde chance avec Glinda mais elle a préféré choisir un autre chemin.
En revanche Pan est un grand méchant qui n'éprouve pas de remords et qui aurait bien mérité sa place dans cette petite vidéo
Elle a su tirer sur la corde sensible par rapport à Belle et Neal qui voulaient ramener Rumple ; sa jalousie l'a pour moi vraiment transformer en villaine. Elle aurait pu avoir une seconde chance avec Glinda mais elle a préféré choisir un autre chemin.
En revanche Pan est un grand méchant qui n'éprouve pas de remords et qui aurait bien mérité sa place dans cette petite vidéo
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Et oui voilà! J'aurai mis Pan à la place de Hook dans cette vidéo. Et j'aurai ajouté Cora aussi, mais bon elle n'était pas dans la saison 3...
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Non mais Pan c'est juste The méchant. Après c'est vrai que Zelena a fait des trucs vraiment moches à cause de sa jalousie maladive. Mais au final j'ai eu pitié d'elle et maintenant elle me manque. Alors que départ je voulais sa mort; qu'on la coupe en mille
morceaux. Pas contre; je trouve que Glinda a été sa..pe avec elle.
morceaux. Pas contre; je trouve que Glinda a été sa..pe avec elle.
Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
le magicien d'Oz n'a pas été très cool avec elle aussi, parmi toute la vie de Cora et Regina il choisi de lui montrer quand sa mère l'abandonne et Regina qui est reine mais qui n'a pas l'air heureuse de l'être normal qu'elle devienne jalouse
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Dites, plus aucune vidéo marche vous sauriez où les trouver par hasard ?
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Quelqu'un les a posté sur Tumblr voici les liens ICI et ICI.
Dans l'odre, ça nous donne donc :
3.04 Nasty Habits - “Mr. Van Winkle”
3.05 Good Form - “A Helping Hook”
3.11 Going Home - “Father of the Bride”
3.13 Witch Hunt - “Thank You Note”
Et ça pour la deuxième vidéo :
3.16 It’s Not Easy Being Green - “Force Fed”
3.16 It’s Not Easy Being Green - “Connected”
3.22 There’s No Place Like Home - “Princess Leia”
Dans l'odre, ça nous donne donc :
3.04 Nasty Habits - “Mr. Van Winkle”
3.05 Good Form - “A Helping Hook”
3.11 Going Home - “Father of the Bride”
3.13 Witch Hunt - “Thank You Note”
Et ça pour la deuxième vidéo :
3.16 It’s Not Easy Being Green - “Force Fed”
3.16 It’s Not Easy Being Green - “Connected”
3.22 There’s No Place Like Home - “Princess Leia”
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Merci pour les liens A. Pan, je ne les avais pas encore vues
La scène Snow Queen
La scène Snow Queen
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
Pfiouuuuuuuuuuu too much feels la scène Snow Queen
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Re: Bêtisier & Scènes Coupées [Saison 3]
De rien
C'est vrai qu'il y avait de belles scènes dans le tas, c'est dommage de ne pas en avoir garder quelques unes =/
J'en profite aussi pour rajouter les commentaires des épisodes :
Some notes from 3x02 Commentary
- The first scenes in Neverland with most of the main characters were meant to set the tone of each character for the rest of the season. Special mentions to Emma accepting Mary Margaret as her mother and Hook/Emma flirtations.
- The “wax moustaches and perms” joke was to set the tone for their interpretation of Hook and Pan.
- Pan and Emma’s first interaction was to set the tone of all his interactions between Emma, Regina, Snow etc.
- Flashbacks were to show new elements of the characters i.e. Charming was not always trusted by the dwarfs.
- Snow is someone who is full of hope - it was interesting to see her doubting herself.
- Neverland was an emotional arc about Emma learning who she is - parallels to Snow learning more about herself in flashbacks.
- "Neverland was a bit like therapy island" because Peter Pan makes you confront your past. Mr. Gold in particular struggled with that.
- 'Who doesn't want to see Grumpy accuse Charming of being a gold digger”
- Charming/Rumple scenes are fun to write.
- Belle is a very important character because of what she means to Rumplestiltskin. She is the one character who sees him for who he is.
- There is a timeline outside the writers room to show what flashbacks have been shown and when so they don’t contradict things that have already happened.
- They had fun with the Regina teaching Emma magic arc throughout the season.
- The scene on the log with Emma and MM was originally written to be Emma and Hook but they changed it as they thought this was more poignant. The theme of the episode showing Snow/Emma being in similar situations made more emotional sense. Emma still has pain from when her parents left her. Pan is essentially putting a wedge between Emma and her parents. Compliments to Ginny and Jennifer.
- Pan did not expect Emma and her parents to work past these feelings.
- Excalibur giving Snow belief in herself is compared to Dumbo’s feather making him believe he can fly.
- "Perhaps we will go to Camelot one day".
- Emma has her guard up at this stage with Hook. She starts to see him as more than just a pirate throughout the Neverland arc. “Perhaps I would” - Hook is earnestly showing his interest in Emma but it will take some episodes before this can move forward.
- Was interesting to see Snow and Charming so in sync by the end of their flashback in this episode but not in present day story.
Some notes from 3x08 Commentary
- Robert was very happy with the casting for young Rumple - Wyatt reminds him of himself and his son.
- Stephen Lord had prepared a Scottish accent but they decided not to use it for his character.
- There were originally three spinsters that spoke one word at a time but it was decided it would be too complicated.
- Robert was very happy with Wyatt and his Scottish accent.
- Robert compares Malcolm leaving Rumple, Rumple leaving Bae and Neal leaving Emma.
- A lot of joking about Neverland actually being 10x10 yards.
- "Not going in there with nothing but my good looks" is one of Robert’s favourite lines.
- Some of Robert’s favourite scenes are on the green screen stage.
- Emotional payback: in episode 4 Neal didn’t believe Rumple had given up his dagger/shadow and he sees at skull rock that he was telling the truth.
- It was extremely difficult to hide the fact he does still have a shadow.
- Robert and Robbie were the only cast members that knew about Peter Pan being Rumple’s dad. Crew members didn’t know either.
- Full of praise for Robbie Kay.
- Robert draws emotion for Rumples scenes with the doll his dad gave him from when he was younger. He went to the cinema to see the Aristocats with his dad and there were dolls of the cats playing guitars that he really liked. Even though his family did not have a lot of money his dad bought one for him and he treasured it for many years.
- "It’s very dark inside that box".
Some notes from 3x17 Commentary
- This episode was intended to be a little bit of a breather episode after Neal’s death/Zelena and before raising level of intensity for the last episodes.
- Hook is in love with Emma but he puts on a facade - Smee is the only one he can let his frustrations out on. He doesn’t feel like he belongs in Storybrooke but at the same time he won’t leave.
- Colin nearly broke his foot and did break a door.
- He should rename The Jolly Roger “Emma”. ”The Jolly Swan” - Colin.
- The scene where Emma falls and comes back up on a bridge was originally written with Emma coming up on a dragon she had created herself but they decided Emma’s magic was not quite there yet.
- They would like to bring Blackbeard back.
- Colin told JoAnna to “really go for it” when slapping him.
- "Does she love him? Does she not?" - Colin on Emma’s face after Hook leaves MM’s apartment.
Some Notes from the 3x22 Commentary
- Ginny was sat on a chair to film the new version of the net scene with Snow and Charming.
- Jennifer and Colin really raised their characters to another level in the finale - everyone did.
- When filming the Rumbelle wedding scene - the atmosphere on set would have made you believe they were really getting married.
- Hook and Emma have had chemistry since they climbed the beanstalk together.
- They wanted every character to have a cliffhanger in the finale.
- Aurora is still pregnant and Philip “is just in the bathroom”.
- They were amazed they were able to keep the final scene a secret but no cast or crew members got the scene in the script. Another scene was there but they hope to use this in the future so will not talk about it.
EDIT : J'avais oublié de mettre CETTE scène entre Belle et Zelena
C'est vrai qu'il y avait de belles scènes dans le tas, c'est dommage de ne pas en avoir garder quelques unes =/
J'en profite aussi pour rajouter les commentaires des épisodes :
Some notes from 3x02 Commentary
- The first scenes in Neverland with most of the main characters were meant to set the tone of each character for the rest of the season. Special mentions to Emma accepting Mary Margaret as her mother and Hook/Emma flirtations.
- The “wax moustaches and perms” joke was to set the tone for their interpretation of Hook and Pan.
- Pan and Emma’s first interaction was to set the tone of all his interactions between Emma, Regina, Snow etc.
- Flashbacks were to show new elements of the characters i.e. Charming was not always trusted by the dwarfs.
- Snow is someone who is full of hope - it was interesting to see her doubting herself.
- Neverland was an emotional arc about Emma learning who she is - parallels to Snow learning more about herself in flashbacks.
- "Neverland was a bit like therapy island" because Peter Pan makes you confront your past. Mr. Gold in particular struggled with that.
- 'Who doesn't want to see Grumpy accuse Charming of being a gold digger”
- Charming/Rumple scenes are fun to write.
- Belle is a very important character because of what she means to Rumplestiltskin. She is the one character who sees him for who he is.
- There is a timeline outside the writers room to show what flashbacks have been shown and when so they don’t contradict things that have already happened.
- They had fun with the Regina teaching Emma magic arc throughout the season.
- The scene on the log with Emma and MM was originally written to be Emma and Hook but they changed it as they thought this was more poignant. The theme of the episode showing Snow/Emma being in similar situations made more emotional sense. Emma still has pain from when her parents left her. Pan is essentially putting a wedge between Emma and her parents. Compliments to Ginny and Jennifer.
- Pan did not expect Emma and her parents to work past these feelings.
- Excalibur giving Snow belief in herself is compared to Dumbo’s feather making him believe he can fly.
- "Perhaps we will go to Camelot one day".
- Emma has her guard up at this stage with Hook. She starts to see him as more than just a pirate throughout the Neverland arc. “Perhaps I would” - Hook is earnestly showing his interest in Emma but it will take some episodes before this can move forward.
- Was interesting to see Snow and Charming so in sync by the end of their flashback in this episode but not in present day story.
Some notes from 3x08 Commentary
- Robert was very happy with the casting for young Rumple - Wyatt reminds him of himself and his son.
- Stephen Lord had prepared a Scottish accent but they decided not to use it for his character.
- There were originally three spinsters that spoke one word at a time but it was decided it would be too complicated.
- Robert was very happy with Wyatt and his Scottish accent.
- Robert compares Malcolm leaving Rumple, Rumple leaving Bae and Neal leaving Emma.
- A lot of joking about Neverland actually being 10x10 yards.
- "Not going in there with nothing but my good looks" is one of Robert’s favourite lines.
- Some of Robert’s favourite scenes are on the green screen stage.
- Emotional payback: in episode 4 Neal didn’t believe Rumple had given up his dagger/shadow and he sees at skull rock that he was telling the truth.
- It was extremely difficult to hide the fact he does still have a shadow.
- Robert and Robbie were the only cast members that knew about Peter Pan being Rumple’s dad. Crew members didn’t know either.
- Full of praise for Robbie Kay.
- Robert draws emotion for Rumples scenes with the doll his dad gave him from when he was younger. He went to the cinema to see the Aristocats with his dad and there were dolls of the cats playing guitars that he really liked. Even though his family did not have a lot of money his dad bought one for him and he treasured it for many years.
- "It’s very dark inside that box".
Some notes from 3x17 Commentary
- This episode was intended to be a little bit of a breather episode after Neal’s death/Zelena and before raising level of intensity for the last episodes.
- Hook is in love with Emma but he puts on a facade - Smee is the only one he can let his frustrations out on. He doesn’t feel like he belongs in Storybrooke but at the same time he won’t leave.
- Colin nearly broke his foot and did break a door.
- He should rename The Jolly Roger “Emma”. ”The Jolly Swan” - Colin.
- The scene where Emma falls and comes back up on a bridge was originally written with Emma coming up on a dragon she had created herself but they decided Emma’s magic was not quite there yet.
- They would like to bring Blackbeard back.
- Colin told JoAnna to “really go for it” when slapping him.
- "Does she love him? Does she not?" - Colin on Emma’s face after Hook leaves MM’s apartment.
Some Notes from the 3x22 Commentary
- Ginny was sat on a chair to film the new version of the net scene with Snow and Charming.
- Jennifer and Colin really raised their characters to another level in the finale - everyone did.
- When filming the Rumbelle wedding scene - the atmosphere on set would have made you believe they were really getting married.
- Hook and Emma have had chemistry since they climbed the beanstalk together.
- They wanted every character to have a cliffhanger in the finale.
- Aurora is still pregnant and Philip “is just in the bathroom”.
- They were amazed they were able to keep the final scene a secret but no cast or crew members got the scene in the script. Another scene was there but they hope to use this in the future so will not talk about it.
EDIT : J'avais oublié de mettre CETTE scène entre Belle et Zelena
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